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There are currently 5 researchers who have claimed Thomas King
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- Researcher (Stephen van der Sluys)
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- Researcher (Jenny Whitehead)
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My name is Stephen van der Sluys. My wife Sue and I have been led to believe for some time that Sue is a descendent of Thomas King born at Harby, England in 1780. That Thomas King who is recorded as having been transported to Australia as a convict in 1810 on the ship known as "The Indian".
We are interested to participate here and to help others ultimately reveal the true, detailed story and ancestry of Thomas King born June 15, 1780 (baptised June 17, 1780) at Harby, England and his wife in Australia being Mary Lamb/Dolan/Dowling.
There is also much intrigue and many unanswered questions about Mary's arrival as a child in the foster care of Mrs Singleton on the vessel the "Pitt" after a journey where Mary's parents possibly died.
There are clearly conflicts in the research posted in England and Australia when considering all the Source information now available. Refer Family Search and elsewhere in genealogical records.
There is for instance a Headstone for Thomas King, born 1780 who died 1840, in the graveyard at St Marys The Virgin Church in Harby England.
That Thomas King, recorded as born of John King and Martha Jarman was married to a Susanna Kiddard at Harby. Susanna is at rest there with Thomas.
Susanna and Thomas had a son who they also named Thomas, born at Harby in 1811.
Records point to there not being any other Thomas King's born at or near Harby in 1780 and certainly not from the same Family.
However that same Thomas King born 1780 in Harby with parents recorded as John and Martha King, is recorded as having been sent to Sydney as a convict where he subsequently married Mary Lamb nee Dolan/Dowling.
We only know that Thomas King’s convict written registration documentation states that he was born 1780 was from Harby, England and that his Mother's name was Martha. It is interesting to note though that in 1808 at the Old Bailey proceedings Thomas is recorded as 22 rather than correctly 28 years old.
Research here and elsewhere by Families in England and related source information points to the same ancestry for Thomas King born 1780 in Harby who was recorded as having married Susanna Kiddard. Parents being John and Martha King nee Jarman (also sp. Sharman in records)
It is of course not possible that our Thomas remained in Harby and also came here to Sydney Australia as well. What really happened ?
After visiting the Pioneers Cemetery in Albury we decided to take a trip to the area around Harby in England where the great stilton cheeses are made.
We were there retracing the footsteps of Thomas King and looking for other King Family relatives of Thomas in Harby, Stathern and Long Clawson. We were rather shocked to find Thomas also laid to rest there at St Marys in Harby. We have posted a few pictures of the headstone, graveyard and church on MyHeritage website for public view.
Was it Thomas King born Harby in 1780 who really did come to Sydney as a convict ? Or possibly a friend, or someone else who knew of Thomas King. There are many other questions of course. We look forward to any constructive comments and interaction from others who may be able to assist. From Sue and Steve
Submitted by Researcher (Stephen van der Sluys) on 11 March 2016
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My name is Stephen van der Sluys. My wife Sue and I have been led to believe for some time that Sue is a descendent of Thomas King born at Harby, England in 1780. That Thomas King who is recorded as having been transported to Australia as a convict in 1810 on the ship known as "The Indian".
We are interested to participate here and to help others ultimately reveal the true, detailed story and ancestry of Thomas King born June 15, 1780 (baptised June 17, 1780) at Harby, England and his wife in Australia being Mary Lamb/Dolan/Dowling.
There is also much intrigue and many unanswered questions about Mary's arrival as a child in the foster care of Mrs Singleton on the vessel the "Pitt" after a journey where Mary's parents possibly died.
There are clearly conflicts in the research posted in England and Australia when considering all the Source information now available. Refer Family Search and elsewhere in genealogical records.
There is for instance a Headstone for Thomas King, born 1780 who died 1840, in the graveyard at St Marys The Virgin Church in Harby England.
That Thomas King, recorded as born of John King and Martha Jarman was married to a Susanna Kiddard at Harby. Susanna is at rest there with Thomas.
Susanna and Thomas had a son who they also named Thomas, born at Harby in 1811.
Records point to there not being any other Thomas King's born at or near Harby in 1780 and certainly not from the same Family.
However that same Thomas King born 1780 in Harby with parents recorded as John and Martha King, is recorded as having been sent to Sydney as a convict where he subsequently married Mary Lamb nee Dolan/Dowling.
We only know that Thomas King’s convict written registration documentation states that he was born 1780 was from Harby, England and that his Mother's name was Martha. It is interesting to note though that in 1808 at the Old Bailey proceedings Thomas is recorded as 22 rather than correctly 28 years old.
Research here and elsewhere by Families in England and related source information points to the same ancestry for Thomas King born 1780 in Harby who was recorded as having married Susanna Kiddard. Parents being John and Martha King nee Jarman (also sp. Sharman in records)
It is of course not possible that our Thomas remained in Harby and also came here to Sydney Australia as well. What really happened ?
After visiting the Pioneers Cemetery in Albury we decided to take a trip to the area around Harby in England where the great stilton cheeses are made.
We were there retracing the footsteps of Thomas King and looking for other King Family relatives of Thomas in Harby, Stathern and Long Clawson. We were rather shocked to find Thomas also laid to rest there at St Marys in Harby. We have posted a few pictures of the headstone, graveyard and church on MyHeritage website for public view.
Was it Thomas King born Harby in 1780 who really did come to Sydney as a convict ? Or possibly a friend, or someone else who knew of Thomas King. There are many other questions of course. We look forward to any constructive comments and interaction from others who may be able to assist. From Sue and Steve
Submitted by Researcher (Stephen van der Sluys) on 11 March 2016
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- The National Archives (TNA) : HO 11/2, p.16
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